# Tweets From Thiago Ghisi  ## Metadata - Author: [[@thiagoghisi on Twitter]] - Full Title: Tweets From Thiago Ghisi - Category: #tweets - URL: https://twitter.com/thiagoghisi ## Highlights - In case you really want to Advance in Your Career in 2024, check out this masterpiece article & framework by <a href="https://twitter.com/EthanEvansVP">@EthanEvansVP</a> called "The Magic Loop" (via <a href="https://twitter.com/lennysan">@lennysan</a>). Ethan's 'Magic Loop' is The Career Catalyst I Wish I Had at 29 – A Must-Read for Ambitious People in Tech, from Engineers, to Managers to even Directors like myself. Ethan is someone who has walked the walk, not only someone who has applied and grown his career to remarkable levels of SVP at Amazon and managed teams of 800+ using his framework (meaning "eating his own dog food") but also someone who has stress tested and taught his framework to many of his directs that are now reaching "higher highs" than himself ever could. > "I am proud to say that my top-performing direct reports now hold higher positions than I did when I retired. People who worked for me are now company founders and executives all over the industry. Interesting metric of success. How many if my former directs are doing better than myself at the moment?" > "As one specific example, a young man who came to me in 2005 as a Software Engineer II at Amazon went on to be a VP of Engineering at Google and has recently joined a new company as an Executive Vice President. He did it through the Magic Loop—by doing a great job, asking for more, and then doing that new work well." Some of my own highlights: And, here is the full comment I made after some deep reflection on this "simple" yet extremely powerful framework: Ethan, I finished reading this masterpiece of yours, and it resonated deeply with me. Your insights, the framework and its advanced versions, the frequently asked questions you've outlined, and how you answered them are practical and reflect a maturity model of proactivity and ownership that I've seen with many of my directs and peers and been contemplating in my own career. Your discussion about rising through the ranks at Amazon by recognizing unmet needs and stepping up to address them struck a particular chord with me. I've observed and solved many similar needs within the organizations I've worked for. Still, I often find myself constrained by limited resources (especially in the more recent years as a Director) or hesitant to burden my team with additional work. Your article has prompted me to reevaluate this approach and consider how I can break this pattern to foster growth both for myself and my team. I love your suggestion on how presenting "the magic loop" to the team could help to put everybody on the same page and pre-align for those moments where there is more work and unmeet needs (aka growth opportunity) than people or time to do (an ever-true constraint in every place I worked over the last 20 years - I always find more things to do, more unmeet needs than time to do them), I'm never done or out of things to do. My to-do list is infinite! I appreciate how you've broken down the steps of the Magic Loop, emphasizing the importance of doing one's current job well before seeking additional responsibilities, a flaw I have experienced with many first-hand. This approach ensures a solid foundation and builds trust and credibility with management. It's a reminder that growth and advancement are not just about seizing opportunities but also about creating value, building trust, and demonstrating reliability. Your point about managers appreciating offers of help and the importance of volunteering for more operational tasks or glue work to consider your more ambitious career growth opportunities also resonates deeply with me. As someone who often steps up to take on additional tasks, I see the value in this proactive approach, yet I also recognize the challenge in balancing these demands. Your article has helped me reflect on how taking "operational" tasks was a huge differentiator that allowed me to advance super fast in my own career. I got promoted to director at 29, something remarkable for someone who had just immigrated to the US 5 years earlier and who, till 23, spoke close to zero English. Furthermore, your insights on moving from "(i) asking what needs to be done" to "(ii) suggesting what exactly could be done to improve things or meet unmet needs and doing it" to finally "(iii) moving to a continuous magic loop of finding unmeet needs & just doing them & asking for more" are so are particularly enlightening. It outlines a progression from being a solid performer to a strategic thinker and finally to an autonomous, reliable leader. This progression is something I have aimed to emulate throughout my career. Your advice on forming a partnership with one's manager rather than a traditional boss/employee dynamic is particularly powerful. It's a goal I strive for in my interactions with my leaders, seeking to create a win-win situation where both can grow and succeed. Lastly, your thoughts on not fearing "exploitation" and the importance of hard work and proactivity in one's career are refreshing. It's a perspective often lost in today's work environment, where the focus can sometimes shift too quickly to work-life balance and work avoidance, sometimes at the expense of growth and opportunity. In summary, your article has not only provided practical advice but has also reaffirmed and expanded upon my own beliefs and strategies for career advancement. It's a framework I intend to apply and advocate for within my team and organization. Thank you for sharing your insights and experiences!! Best regards, Thiago Ghisi.<img src='https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCxQLVJWAAA2Apz.jpg'/><img src='https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCxZRnjWMAAbsDH.jpg'/><img src='https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCxZ_oAX0AAA3Kr.jpg'/><img src='https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCxaY1-W8AAs7bh.jpg'/> ([View Tweet](https://twitter.com/thiagoghisi/status/1741869380709892261))